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Post by Pat on Jan 1, 2017 22:57:22 GMT -7
This looks like my next purchase YAESU FTM-3200DR 144MHz 65W C4FM/FM Single Band Digital Mobile Transceiver Rugged & Compact 2m Digital Mobile with Front Speaker Radio Features: - 65W of Solid RF Power within a Compact Footprint - Modulation Modes: C4FM Digital (V/D Mode, VFR Mode*, DFR Mode), FM Analog - AMS (Automatic Mode Select) Function Automatically Recognizes the Signal as C4FM Digital or Conventional FM - Loud and Crystal Clear Front Panel Speaker with 3W of Audio Output - Digital GM (Group Monitor) Function - Bright Multi-Colored LED Mode/Status Indicator Vibrantly Shows the Transceivers' Status - Illuminated Microphone with Direct Frequency Entry - 220 Memory Channels with Alpha-Numeric Tags (Maximum 8 Characters) - DSQ (Digital Squelch Code) Signaling Feature - CTCSS and DCS Encode/Decode with Split Tone and DCS Encode-Only Capability - Expanded Receiver Coverage: 136-174 MHz - High Stability ±2.5 ppm TCXO Included - Weather Broadcast Reception (USA version only) - Severe Weather Alert Feature (USA version only) www.youtube.com/watch?v=kStJclbACJw |
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Post by Mark on Jan 2, 2017 9:28:08 GMT -7
I'm a Kenwood fan, so here are the differences between the two:
KENWOOD TN-281A HRO $132.95
eHam rating 4.5
MIL-STD 810 C, D, E, F & G environmental standards for vibration and shock
RF Power Output Hi / Lo 65 W / 25 W
Audio Output Power More than 2 W (5 % distortion)
Sensitivity (12 dB SINAD) Less than 0.18 μV
No fan
Free OEM programming software, have to buy special cable.
YEASU FTM-3200DR HRO $149.95
eHam rating 3.9
Fusion Digital w/simplex groups
+ They use 146.520 frequency in YouTube demo
Output Power: 65/30/5 W
Audio Output: 3W @ 13.8V, 10% THD
Sensitivity (12dB SINAD): 0.20uV
Fan runs constantly?
Many people reported the squelch low level is like mid(5) on other radios, having to turn off to receive low signals.
USB cable included, only 3rd party programming software available.
SUMMARY:
While Kenwood has a slightly better receiver, Yeasu has Fusion Digital mode that can also on repeaters and on simplex, as groups. If you are interested in trying out entry level digital, Yeasu would be the radio. If you only need/want FM, Kenwood would be my choice.
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Post by Pat on Jan 2, 2017 9:49:42 GMT -7
I'm a yaesu guy. The fusion system will be a good thing once it catches on. I was sold on the audio quality of C4FM.
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Post by Mark on Jan 2, 2017 10:08:12 GMT -7
We'll see what system shakes out, we need a standard. The good thing about standards is there are so many to choose from  Or better yet, a site that decodes them all into one format. I tried out the DStar while I had my 7300 and it was very clear and worked, but didn't know anyone to talk to. Other than the digital transmission, they all use EchoLink like IP connectivity. |
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Post by Pat on Jan 2, 2017 11:24:06 GMT -7
We'll see what system shakes out, we need a standard. The good thing about standards is there are so many to choose from Or better yet, a site that decodes them all into one format. I tried out the DStar while I had my 7300 and it was very clear and worked, but didn't know anyone to talk to. Other than the digital transmission, they all use EchoLink like IP connectivity. Check this out...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YXc97EoGRM |
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Ted
Crewman
Posts: 1 
QTH: Tempe, AZ
FCC Call Sign: N7RTH
License Class: Technician
Radio(s): 857d HF mobile, V71A mobile, Vertex EVX-539 UHF/DMR
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Post by Ted on Jan 2, 2017 21:22:53 GMT -7
The lack of activity on dmr-marc sort of ruined the "coolness" of wanting to invest any more in one digital mode versus the other. At least with DMR you have a lot of TRBO compatible surplus commercial equipment, and the infrastructure already exists.
Rolling with something like a Micro/NanoNode or a DV4mini to keep up with all of the different modes is an option, but being tied to a LTE/net connection sort of defeats the purpose of mobile digital radios.
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Post by Mark on Jan 4, 2017 8:48:35 GMT -7
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Post by Pat on Jan 4, 2017 9:21:24 GMT -7
Yaesu fusion doesn't use the internet as a backbone. It only uses internet for the WIRES-X. My ftm-3200 can do digital on simplex. It automatically switches between digital and analog depending on who I'm talking to. If the fusion system doesn't pan out, I will still have 2m analog so no loss on my part. If the internet goes down, what happens to DMR and DSTAR.
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Post by Mark on Jan 5, 2017 14:47:36 GMT -7
DStar also works on Simplex. Not sure about DMR.
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Joel
Lieutenant
Posts: 13
QTH: Phoenix, AZ
FCC Call Sign: KG7ALU
License Class: Technician
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Post by Joel on Jan 10, 2017 18:20:11 GMT -7
Dmr is true digital emission, as is p25, too sad nobody wants commercial gear as most of the surplus radios are up for sale at really cheap deals...😫😔
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Post by Mark on Jan 11, 2017 18:41:04 GMT -7
Joel, why don't you put a post in gear for sale and see if you get any bites?
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Post by Mark on Jan 12, 2017 20:13:04 GMT -7
Check out this new radio DV4Mobile All Mode Digital Tri-Band (2M, 222MHz, 440MHz) Transceiver plus LTE GPS DV4 MOBILEThat's what I was talking about, for the digital lover! |
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Or better yet, a site that decodes them all into one format.
